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Truer Crime

Nobody Should Believe Me - Season 6

Truer Crime

Celisia Stanton

True Crime

4.81.8K Ratings

🗓️ 3 October 2025

⏱️ 2 minutes

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Summary

Season 6 of Nobody Should Believe Me covers the extraordinary and tragic saga of the McDaniel family, a real-life Southern Gothic tale of Munchausen by Proxy that spans decades and has left untold damage in its wake.  For the past twelve years, Lisa McDaniel worked for The Guthy Jackson Foundation, a high-profile non-profit, dedicated to a rare disease called NMO (Neuromyelitis Optica), from which Lisa claims her son suffered.  But while Lisa appears to be a sweet Southern mom whose personal tragedy led to her heroic work, this image hides her dark history of abuse. How was Lisa able to keep her felony conviction for poisoning and suffocating her infant daughter hidden? How did her children slip through the cracks of the healthcare and legal systems again and again? What really happened to her son Collin?   Season Six breaks a story that is years in the making and made possible through the astounding courage of Mishelle Roberts. This season ties together many elements introduced in previous seasons: ways that systems fail vulnerable victims, the culture of silence and inaction within hospitals that enables abuse, and the damage done to rare disease advocacy and victims’ groups which can devastate families and echo through generations.  Follow the show here. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

You're listening to a tenderfoot TV podcast.

0:05.0

You said nobody wants to believe there's a monster in their family.

0:17.0

You think she's a monster.

0:19.0

I don't want to.

0:21.6

But I don't know how else you describe somebody who does those things to children.

0:25.6

Michelle has lived in the shadow of her family's dark past for decades.

0:30.6

But now she's ready to bring it into the light.

0:33.6

No.

0:34.6

Please listen. Please listen. You're asking me to listen to you.

0:36.6

Please listen to me.

0:39.2

And we still don't have the whole story.

0:41.2

Like, we still don't understand the whole picture.

0:47.0

She was born, and I just remember being told that she was really sick.

0:50.9

Michelle's mother, Lisa McDaniel, has managed to keep her past buried. How somebody could do that to a child that was so little and so helpless.

1:02.0

Still to this day haunts me.

1:04.0

I'm actually amazed from what you're telling me that this child lived through this.

1:08.0

The judge gave full custody back to them.

1:10.0

I stood up and I told him, I hope you don't sleep.

1:13.3

When you go home tonight, you have no idea what you've done and you should be ashamed of

1:16.9

yourself.

1:18.1

Even after going to jail for medical child abuse, Lisa seemed to find every crack in the system

1:22.9

to get her daughter's back.

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