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Hello, and welcome to Optimist Economy. I'm economist Catherine Ann Edwards.

I'm editor Robin Rousey.

And on this show, we believe the U.S. economy can be better,

and we talk about how to get there one problem and solution at a time.

Today on Optimist Economy, we're going to talk about moving,

and not just because both of us have moved in the last year or so,

but because I think it's really,

I think it's interesting and I think even more than a tax story, I like a demographics story.

Yes.

And, you know, they often don't pan out. People make a lot of guesses on demographic stories.

But I think they're fun. They're always like trying to figure out what's,

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