I think I speak for a lot of constituents.

We don't want to see this play nice stuff.

And when Republicans are the minority, they somehow always find a way to do something disruptive

and obstructionist.

And that's my expectation for this party.

That's Jamel Hill. She's a sports journalist and an author and a damn good one too.

And her take on sports and politics often intersect in a way that's both profound and provocative.

She hosts a podcast aptly named Spolitics, and she writes for the Atlantic.

She worked for ESPN for years, and her departure in 2018 was not without controversy,

after she did what many people with significant platforms would not. She called Trump a white

supremacist, who was unqualified to be president. And as a result, she became a target of the Trump

White House and the MAGA machine. But that hasn't stopped her from speaking out.

Welcome to The Blueprint with Jen Saki. So I've been a longtime admirer of Jamel Hill. I love

sports and politics and people who speak their mind.

She also masterfully handles trolls, an art form we all could learn how to do better.

And right now, she wants more from the Democrats.

So I wanted to talk with her about what she'd like to see.

Here's that conversation.

Jamel Hill, it's so great to see you. Yeah, great to see you too. I don't know that we've

ever met in person. I was thinking about this. I don't think so. I've long been an admirer of

yours. And when we were talking about on our team about doing this podcast, about what just

happened in the election,

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