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Welcome to Science Talk, the weekly podcast of Scientific American for the seven days starting December 13th.

I'm Steve Murski.

This week on the podcast, Nobel laureate Harold Varmus, and we'll talk to Jin Mung,

co-discoverer of a major fossil and early gliding mammal.

Hello, Rocky the Flying Squirrels baking.

Must be the wrong mammal.

Plus, we'll test your knowledge about some recent science in the news.

First up, Harold Varmus.

He's currently the president of Memorial Sloan Ketteran Cancer Center here in New York City.

From 1993 to 1999, he was director of the National Institutes of Health.

In 1989, he was awarded the Nobel Prize for physiology or medicine for his studies of the

genetic basis of cancer.

Last week, Varma took part in a forum put together by something called the Hamilton Project

at the Brookings Institution, focusing on policies to advance science and technology.

Other panel participants included former Treasury Secretary's Robert Rubin and Lawrence Summers.

I met with Dr. Varmus Monday at his office at Sloan Kettering.

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