Noam Tibon on rescuing his family from Hamas in Barry Avrich’s ‘The Road Between Us’
The Business
KCRW
4.5 • 699 Ratings
🗓️ 10 October 2025
⏱️ 30 minutes
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Summary
This week, Kim Masters speaks with The Road Between Us director Barry Avrich and retired Israeli General Noam Tibon, the latter of whom drove straight into the October 7 massacre to rescue his family. Despite the third-rail nature of anything involving Israel and Gaza, the pair hopes that the documentary can be viewed as a story about family. But politics were inescapable — the film was pulled from the Toronto Film Festival, reinstated after protests, and then greeted with protests from the other side before going on to win the festival’s People’s Choice documentary prize.
Plus, as predicted on recent episodes of The Business, Paramount has acquired The Free Press and hired founder Bari Weiss as editor-in-chief of CBS News. Partners in banter Kim Masters and Matt Belloni break down the potential impact on news coverage at the network.
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| 0:00.0 | From KCRW, I'm Kim Masters, and this is the business. |
| 0:05.5 | When Barry Averich heard the story of retired Israeli general, Noam Tibon, who drove with his wife |
| 0:11.1 | straight into the October 7th massacre to rescue his family, the documentarian knew it was a story |
| 0:17.2 | he wanted to tell, and he found the footage to do it. |
| 0:20.6 | If he arrived at a junction or he saw something or his wife saw something as they were driving |
| 0:25.5 | there through the benefit of the Hamas footage and cameras that were on the highways throughout |
| 0:30.3 | Israel and in the cabots, we were able to retrace that perspective in the film specifically. |
| 0:38.3 | Avery Chen Tibon talk about the harrowing journey that they reconstructed for their film, |
| 0:42.3 | The Road Between Us. |
| 0:44.3 | Despite the third real nature of anything involving Israel and Gaza, |
| 0:48.3 | they hope the film can be viewed as a story about family. |
| 0:51.3 | But politics were inescapable. |
| 0:53.3 | The film was pulled from the Toronto |
| 0:55.2 | Film Festival, reinstated after protests, and then greeted with protests from the other side |
| 1:00.4 | when it screened. The film is facing distribution challenges, which Averidge says he hopes can be |
| 1:05.9 | overcome. But first we banter. Stick around. It's the business from KCRW. I am joined by my partner in banter. Matt, |
| 1:15.0 | Melanie. Hello, Matt. Hi there. So we said it was going to happen. We knew it was going to happen. |
| 1:19.7 | It happened. David Ellison paid $150 million for Barry Weiss's free press website. She started to meet with the staff. |
| 1:29.7 | I have had a lot to say about this because I can't believe what is happening, |
| 1:35.3 | that she was named Editor-in-Chief of CBS News. |
| 1:39.3 | I mean, her reporting experience is very limited to borderline non-existent. |
| 1:44.7 | And television experience, I think it would have been in her interest not to have that title. |
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