Noah Kahan Talks New Album "The Great Divide," Stick Season and "Out of Body" Documentary
Zach Sang Show
Sangasong, LLC
4.6 • 685 Ratings
🗓️ 22 April 2026
⏱️ 80 minutes
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Summary
We’re thrilled to have Noah Kahan back in for a third time to discuss the double whammy of his new, fourth album ‘The Great Divide’ and his stunningly honest documentary ‘Out of Body’ (out now on Netflix) which charts this post-‘Stick Season’ period — the endless tours, the knuckling down to make this new record, and confronting not only himself in this new era, but also exploring the impact his success has had on his family.
The documentary becomes not just a mode of capture, but a tool of communication for him to really open up to his mom and dad, and also stare down some of his own demons, his body dysmorphia in particular. Much of this ultimately filters into ‘The Great Divide,’ an album steeped in his beloved home state Vermont, and his home life — his wife, friends, family. We talk about all this and so much more.
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| 0:00.0 | I'm very happy to be here in Nashville. |
| 0:08.0 | And I'm okay, a little lie. |
| 0:09.0 | Like it was a journey to be here, |
| 0:11.0 | but to be sitting in front of this person makes me so, |
| 0:14.0 | I feel grounded and I feel very happy and deeply ready to listen |
| 0:19.0 | and talk with Noah Kahn. Say hello, beautiful human. |
| 0:23.1 | Hey, Zach. Hey, everybody. Followers, watchers, people that are seeing me through their algorithm |
| 0:29.5 | or some kind of marketing thing. Thank you for having me. It's great to see you. Always love |
| 0:34.0 | having a conversation with you, man. It's good to see you and you look well and happy and it's nice to have you in Nashville and out of LA. |
| 0:39.9 | Okay. By the way, we've been talking now for many many years. This is the third appearance and you did bring up that you can gradually see this Noah Khan evolve. |
| 0:52.2 | Yeah. |
| 0:52.7 | You're the three of them. It's like yeah, it's like watching your future self or you're like, oh, why am I wearing that? You're like, no, come back to Earth. I remember when you first started, I had like a flannel, very like humble outfit and I'll have like pants with like ponies on them and this like incredibly expensive but like somehow bad looking cardigan. You know you're getting like the... You know, you're getting out of touch when you start wearing clothes that look like they're dirty, but that's like they cost more for that reason. Yeah, bro, when you're spending $700 on a pair of shoes, that look distressed. I can distress them myself, dude. But yeah, I've always been thankful for you giving me a platform on your show because obviously |
| 1:28.3 | like when we first did it, you know, there wasn't so much going on for me. So I always remember the folks that like wanted to talk to me before it was like, you know, the stick season thing happened. So thank you for always being a ride or die, man. Dude. Okay, here's the deal. I'm sitting, you got to understand something. you have been one of the most incredible writers that I have ever heard |
| 1:44.7 | since before you came on our show. |
| 1:46.8 | Thank you. I'm seeing you got to understand something you have been one of the most incredible writers that I've ever heard since before you came on our show and two things are the reason you are successful in my own opinion you were born to do this and consistency you have never stopped you have kept going you have am I crazy in that no No, I have always like just the things I can control are the writing and making music. |
| 2:07.1 | And like that's always made me happy. |
| 2:08.9 | Like there's lots of fluctuations and like what I care about when it comes to like my career. |
| 2:11.9 | But making music has always been like just like you said, for me it's like the point of my life. |
| 2:17.0 | And so that's really, I think carried me far just like wanting to make for me it's like the point of my life and so that's really |
| 2:18.4 | i think carried me far just like wanting to make music and trying to get better at it and |
| 2:22.1 | it's like this thing that never ends and i love chasing my tail around when we spoke the first time |
| 2:26.4 | i believe you had written 200 songs yeah right like you you at this point to get to where we're at |
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