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Hello and welcome to the London Review of Books podcast. I'm Joanna Biggs, an associate

editor at the LRB, and today I'm talking to Jenny Turner, a contributing editor for the London

Review, who is the piece in the latest issue about the women's liberation

movement. It's a review of Marguerite Jolie's oral history of the WLM called Sisterhood and After,

as well as two movies, one pretty bad, the recent hero nightly movie, misbehaviour, and one good but sort of

rebarbative, night cleaners by the Berwick Street Film Collective. But the piece is also

about shame, anger, forgetting and remembering. And it tells to you the story of the British

feminism second wave. All things I hope will get into during our conversation. Jenny, thank you so

much for taking time to talk to me about this today. Thank you for asking me. The piece starts with the protest at the

Miss World contest in 1970 and you remembering the sort of wretched feelings that that sort of

light entertainment as a young girl gave you. Is this where feminism began for you?

I would have been six or seven when that Miss World protest happened and I don't remember

being aware of that at the time. What I was aware of was I don't know if I was watching the

Miss World competition that year but there were always those programs. It's the prime time slots on television. It still is,

isn't it? And now it's strictly come dancing and the voice and Britain's got talent. And back in

those days, you'd always have some horrible sleazy man. With Miss World, it was Bob Hope, or it would

be Bruce Forsythe in the Generation Game, leering basically, at young women

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