No water, no power, no comms: the attack Britain should prepare for
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🗓️ 4 June 2025
⏱️ 33 minutes
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Summary
The government’s Strategic Defence Review has set out a vision for Britain’s defence for the next decade. One of its authors, General Sir Richard Barrons, spoke to Manveen Rana about the threat from Russia, the wars and weapons of the future and how quickly society can collapse.
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Guest: General Sir Richard Barrons, co-author of the Strategic Defence Review 2025.
Host: Manveen Rana.
Producer: Edward Drummond.
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| 1:03.5 | From the Times and the Sunday Times, this is the story. |
| 1:05.4 | I'm Manvien Rana. |
| 1:14.6 | The UK is facing the greatest threat to our security in a generation. I've never seen a situation like this in my 40 years of service. |
| 1:19.6 | It's really coming to a point where I must say we have to be prepared to be ready to defend ourselves, |
| 1:26.6 | to show Russia that it's not easy to have an attack against NATO territory. |
| 1:33.3 | Suddenly we were not able to assume that a confrontation with Russia |
| 1:38.3 | might not be until the early 2030s, it might be in 2025. |
| 1:43.3 | They're at war with us now. |
| 1:46.0 | Vladimir Putin has made it absolutely clear that he's at war with us. |
| 1:52.0 | The front line, if you like, is here. |
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