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No Such Thing As Evil? (SHOCKING DEBATE) | Dr. John Demartini #521

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🗓️ 12 February 2026

⏱️ 105 minutes

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Summary

I almost stopped this episode mid-recording. That's never happened before.

Dr. John Demartini is a human behavior specialist, bestselling author of over 40 books, and one of the featured teachers in the global phenomenon The Secret. He has spoken in over 100 countries, shared stages with Deepak Chopra, Stephen Covey, and Richard Branson, and has spent over five decades developing methodologies used by psychologists, educators, and executives around the world. He is, by any measure, one of the most influential voices in the personal development space.

He also told me, to my face, that there are "upsides to the murder of children." That evil does not exist. That a person torturing another person is simply an event, not a moral violation. That every act of cruelty is just a projection of our incomplete awareness. And Jesus is neither good nor bad, and “Rumi is a jihadist in his own way.”

I couldn't let that stand.

What followed was the most heated, raw, and philosophically charged conversation I've ever had on this show. We went round after round on moral relativism, the nature of good and evil, the body's innate knowledge of right and wrong, and whether we have a sacred obligation to stand against cruelty or simply find the blessing in it.

This is not a comfortable listen. But it might be one of the most important conversations I’ve ever had. 


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comics, stamps, or coins, and as I've gotten older, I've transitioned to collecting original art.

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I also believe in precious metals as one of the safest and most stable stores of wealth.

0:19.0

The impossibly cool thing about my new company Metal Mark as part of the Aubrey Marcus

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Collective is that it combines both of these things that I love.

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paired with impossibly beautiful, and collectible limited edition art

0:40.3

so if for some reason you don't like the art anymore or the art loses its value

0:45.3

you can always just keep the gold if any other class of art loses its value all

0:51.3

you are left with is paper or in the case of NFTs, pixels.

0:55.9

And if you are just starting and collecting gold, instead of having to drop $2,700 on a coin like this,

1:03.1

you can get in for less than a Benjamin.

1:08.5

I came into this podcast with Dr. John D. Martini, expecting to have a conversation about how our thoughts can impact our reality and how we can utilize our belief field to actually draw towards us those things that we're more resonant with.

1:25.6

But what happened very quickly was something much different.

1:28.2

We highlighted a bright point of distinction in our worldviews, and this turned into a very

1:35.0

intense debate. And I think debate is healthy. I think when people have two different opinions,

1:41.3

and they stand by those opinions and still allow themselves to have the

1:46.5

discussion, something greater emerges. Now, at some point, I didn't think that we could even make it

1:52.8

through. It felt like the chasm was so wide that even having the conversation itself wasn't going

1:59.9

to be fruitful or actually beneficial for the

2:03.1

people listening. But as time went on, I'm more grateful for this conversation because I think it

2:08.6

highlights two different worldviews. Is there such a thing as good and evil? Or is it all the one

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