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Inside Briefing with the Institute for Government

No Such Thing As A Free Relaunch

Inside Briefing with the Institute for Government

Institute for Government

News, Politics, Government

4.6252 Ratings

🗓️ 20 November 2020

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Can Boris Johnson make his reset stick? Will changing his advisors change his problems? Is No.10 getting nervous as the Brexit endgame looms? And what does the departure of Dominic Cummings mean for the use of digital data to revolutionise government? John McTernan, political strategist and former Director of Political Operations to Prime Minister Tony Blair, joins us to hack through the thickets of government. “This is Theresa May all over again. It wasn’t the advisors that were the problem. The Prime Minister is the problem.” – John McTernan “If you can’t reset your character, you can’t reset your government.” – John McTernan “Gordon Brown was right. The UK may not be breaking up but governance is definitely breaking down.” – John McTernan Presented by Bronwen Maddox with Alex Thomas, Jill Rutter and Gavin Freeguard. Audio production by Alex Rees See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to inside briefing.

0:12.4

I'm Bronwyn Maddox.

0:14.3

Refresh, rebrand, reset.

0:16.9

That's Boris Johnson's plan, or so he says.

0:19.7

But will the dramatic departure of Dominic Cummings from number 10 really signal a new style of government? And can this Prime Minister really relaunch his premiership? We're going to take a look at what Johnson is trying to do and what he should do to make this reset count. He's going to have to make a decision on Brexit, of course, and very soon, there are just

0:37.8

weeks to go until the end of the transition period, and still that familiar question, deal or no

0:43.6

deal, is yet to be answered. We'll take stock as crunch time approaches. And then we're going to

0:49.5

take a look at an area so beloved to Dominic Cummings, and that's the use of digital technology in government.

0:55.5

A new IofG paper weighs up how well the government has done on this front during the coronavirus crisis,

1:01.2

and its author is going to beam into our virtual studio for a chat.

1:04.9

So joining me in that studio today is a terrific lineup of guests.

1:09.0

Welcome back to Alex Thomas, who leads our civil service work. Hi, Alex.

1:12.7

Hi, Bromyn. We're joined again by Jill Rutter, IFG Senior Fellow and a one-time civil servant

1:18.1

right at the heart of government. Hi, Joel. Hi, Bromyn, great to be back. And we've also got

1:21.8

John McTurton, also an IFG Senior Fellow and former advisor at the heart of government. John, good, have you with us.

1:28.0

It's great to be back.

1:29.5

Let's start with a grant reset, which is how the Prime Minister would like to use recent

1:33.3

explosive changes in Downing Street leading to the exit of his chief strategist.

1:38.0

Ms. Heralds, so No. 10, would like us to think, a softer Downing Street, and a Prime

1:42.3

Minister focused once more on his levelling up agenda

1:45.1

and on a vision to turn Britain green. And there are factors helping him achieve a sense of a new

1:50.8

beginning, if he can grasp it, a new US president, almost certainly, a vaccine probably,

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