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Welcome to the No Spin News Weekend Edition.

All right, let's bring in one of the smartest guys on political scenes,

a Democrat. You've seen him before and you know it's been news, Doug Shown. He's got a new book

coming out called Four Presidents Kennedy, Nixon, Biden, Trump, leaders who changed history in

changing times. So you can pre-order that book now anywhere. So where am I making mistakes, Doug?

Am I going wrong here somewhere?

What I think with January 6th, where Trump has some additional liability, is the whole process of certifying

the result. I think that the charge that I thought, Bill, is the whole process of certifying the result. I think that the charge that I thought Bill on January 6th was the whole notion of what Trump was asking Pence to do and Pence refused to do.

I think that charge is also a serious one. I worry, though, I must tell you,

I worry about the Georgia prosecution for the reasons you do, the idea of using a RICO statute

against the president and 18 other people, however misguided, they may well have been.

What this says for our democracy, and you made this point, Bill, and it's the point that to me is most important,

if this goes forward in the way that it could, our democracy could be finished.

It could be irrevocably changed.

That's my greatest concern.

Yeah, and that's everybody, Charlie said the same thing.

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