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Faith Adjacent

No Small Endeavor Special Presentation

Faith Adjacent

The Popcast Media Group

Education, Society & Culture

4.85K Ratings

🗓️ 20 October 2025

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

Today, we're sharing an episode of the No Small Endeavor podcast.

These days, our culture is marked by political unrest, polarization, and anxiety. Beauty and art feel like a luxury, or even a distraction. In a special series, No Small Endeavor is asking: What if art, beauty, and poetry are exactly what we need to face the crisis at hand? Can poetry help us protest, pray, lament, and even hope? Host Lee C. Camp talks to poets like Haleh Liza Gafori, a poet, musician, and acclaimed translator of the Persian poet Rumi; and Pádraig Ó Tuama, poet, theologian, and host of Poetry Unbound. Their conversations evoke thoughtfulness about how to fight for beauty in the current culture, and how to make it through the fires of our time together. In this episode, Lee talks to Joy Harjo, a musician, author, and three-term U.S. Poet Laureate. Camp and Harjo explore how poetry can act as a form of justice, a practice of self-development, and a tiny experiment in healing. 

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0:00.0

Hey there. We are sharing something special with you this week. Now, I know we don't normally

0:16.0

listen to other podcasts, but we're making an exception. It's an episode of the podcast,

0:20.4

No Small Endeavor,

0:21.4

a show that will help you find light in these dark times. These days, our culture is marked

0:25.8

by political unrest, polarization, and anxiety. Beauty and Art feel like a luxury,

0:30.5

or even a distraction. In a special series, No Small Endeavor is asking, what if art, beauty,

0:35.2

and poetry are exactly what we need to face the crisis at

0:38.3

hand? Can poetry help us protest, pray, lament, and even hope? Host Lee C. Camp talks to poets like

0:44.9

Hela Liza Gafori, a poet, musician, and acclaimed translator of the Persian poet Rumi, and Padraig Otuma,

0:51.3

poet theologian, and host ofetry Unbound. Their conversations evoke

0:55.3

thoughtfulness about how to fight for beauty in the current culture and how to make it

0:58.4

through the fires of our time together. In this episode, Lee talks to Joy Harjo, a musician, author,

1:04.8

and three-term U.S. Poet Laureate. Camp and Harjo explore how poetry can act as a form of justice,

1:10.6

a practice of self-development,

1:12.3

and a tiny experiment in healing. The episode asks what it means to live a good life in an age

1:17.6

of crisis, climate change, technological upheaval, and cultural fracture. Poetry,

1:22.8

Harjo reminds us, is a way of being human, an act of authentic human flourishing even in the hardest of times.

1:28.9

Okay, here comes the episode. You can listen to this series and more on No Small Endeavor,

1:33.2

wherever you get your podcasts.

1:37.1

I'm Lee C. Camp and this is No Small Endeavor, exploring what it means to live a good life.

1:45.7

Poetry, it's ceremonial language that taps on your heart and says, okay, let's pay attention

1:54.0

here.

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