From WNYC in New York, this is On the Media. I'm Bob Garfield.

On this week's show, as extremism goes mainstream, how to go about deradicalization.

A lot of people have become really radicalized by this idea that everything is unfair, everything is rigged, and that someone is out to get you.

Someone who's getting themselves armed to the teeth isn't going to buy into an ad that

says everything's hunky-dory, go home.

That's not going to work.

My wife came down with the ultimatum of this is not conducive to family or relationships

and is not positive, so it was either my family or this movement.

A lot of the Islamic State leaders, they went to Abu Ghraib and they were radicalized rather than de-radicalized.

So they failed utterly.

If you introduce an idea to somebody in the same way that a body is introduced to a weakened version of a virus,

people will build their own counter arguments against that idea.

It's all coming up after this.

From WNYC in New York, this is on the media.

Brooke Gladstone is out this week.

I'm Bob Garfield.

A new administration, a new take on the far right.

It's just been weeks since all America witnessed, a group of thugs, insurrectionists,

a political extremist and white supremacist, violently attack the capital of our democracy.

And so now, now's the time to act.

An NPR team has been analyzing the more than 200 cases the Justice Department has brought so

far. The defendants include military men, extremists, and hardcore Trump supporters.

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