And I'm going to You know the when I was reading that chapter on the mound cultures and

coquia and what you were just bringing up, Teff, you know, most people misunderstand, you know, mound is almost like a misnomer in many ways because it, mounds is like, when I dig a hole in my yard, it create a mound of dirt, right? It almost seems half hazard, but these are actual like structures that expand over an entire geography. They're so extensive, you know, St. Louis is at the confluence of the Mississippi and Missouri rivers, right?

There is an extensive geography, and you point this out in the book Walter about the Mandan and the Arikara is coming from this mound culture but if you go up the river I could tell you where all the mounds are on the river. They look like hills to most people.

And most people, you know, like in Vermilion, where the University of South Dakota is,

there's an identified mound there. and there's a series of mounds

throughout that entire area there's a series of mounds north of Standing Rock the

Standing Rock Indian Reservation and one one of the things that has always been,

we've always been accused of is not being,

or have we frequently called like recent inhabitants

of like the Northern Plains. But we trace our history of some of our origin stories come from

Cahokia. We were one of the groups that broke off from that civilization, you know,

one of the stories goes, came from the south.

But another story is that instead of burying, you know, the archaeologists will say, well,

we didn't find any burial grounds. you know and the ones that we did

only kind of point to a certain time period therefore you know you we only see you as being here for like several

hundred years but we never buried our dead in the

ground like you know white people do we would scaffold them and then we would take

the remains and put them in these mounds and that's where we would you know

bury our dead and for us they had these these like historic you know cultural but

also cosmological significance and they're everywhere.

And you know when I was reading that history of you know St. Louis is literally just like

leveling these mounds, erasing, you know, the civilization and oftentimes people will say like, well, there's no, you know, there's no, there's no civilization here.

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