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Channels with Peter Kafka

No seriously. What’s the future of Disney? And why did Fox News fire Tucker Carlson?

Channels with Peter Kafka

Vox Media Podcast Network

Business News, News, Tv & Film, Technology

4.4585 Ratings

🗓️ 9 November 2023

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

It’s a double shot of media business takes, with conversations about the Walt Disney Corporation and Fox News, with references to “Succession” in both. First, CNBC’s Alex Sherman (@sherman4949) joins Vox’s Peter Kafka to talk about Disney’s strategy, or lack thereof. What does it want to do with ESPN? ABC? Marvel? Star Wars? And although it plans to buy the remaining third of Hulu… what the hell does it want to do with Hulu? Plus, he gives us some hot goss about the Bobs (Iger and Chapek), and which Bob is most to blame for Disney’s troubles. Then, media reporter Brian Stelter (@brianstelter) joins us to talk about his SECOND book about Fox News, “Network of Lies.” What’s the real story behind Tucker Carlson’s departure? And what will Lachlan Murdoch do once his dad formally leaves the company? Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode More to explore: Subscribe for free to Recode Media, Peter Kafka, one of the media industry's most acclaimed reporters, talks to business titans, journalists, comedians, and more to get their take on today's media landscape. About Recode by Vox: Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:05.4

Welcome to Recode Media of Peter Kafka.

1:08.0

That is me and today we are doing a good old-fashioned recode media,

1:12.5

big media business pod. First up, we've got CNBC's Alex Sherman, who wrote one of the best

1:18.6

media stories of the year a while back. It's on the Bob Iger, Bob Chepec drama. Alex takes us on a

1:24.5

deep dive into all things Disney. What's it going to do with ESPN? What's it going to do with Hulu? And what is up with Bob Eiger anyway? As I note during our chat, we recorded this before Disney's earnings on Wednesday afternoon. It holds up just fine. And then we've got a return visit from Brian Stelter, who's got a new book. It's a second book about Fox News. This one is called

1:45.2

Network of Lies. Brian takes us behind the scenes and tells us why Rupert and Lockland Murdoch really

1:50.7

fired Tucker Carlson. It's probably not why Tucker Carlson says he got fired and why Fox News

1:55.6

remains the cultural, political, business powerhouse that it is. Also, some speculation about Rupert Murdoch's next move.

2:04.1

Okay, it's a good one, so let's get right to it. Here's me and Alex Sherman.

2:08.9

Alex Sherman from CNBC is rejoining us. He comes on occasionally to make us smarter about all

2:13.8

things media business. Thanks for coming back, Alex. Thanks, Peter. Always happy to be here.

2:17.7

I wanted to spend time talking with you about Disney,

2:19.6

which is something we talk about a lot on this show,

2:21.9

particularly with you.

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