From the ACLU, this is at Liberty. I'm Kendall Seasmeyer, your host.

Across America, 68% of incarcerated people with a medical condition go without care in our local jails.

Put simply, incarcerated people are often denied life-sustaining and life-saving

health care treatment. To make matters worse, carceral facilities are increasingly used as a response

to treat those with mental and physical illnesses. But in reality, they are doing the opposite. After an arrest, those who can't

immediately post bail can spend days on end without medical services until they gather enough money

to buy their freedom. Incarcerated people can suffer from poor health care with dire consequences,

including in some cases, death.

Nothing reveals this experience more than the story of 54-year-old Dexter Barry.

Last year, in November of 2022, Dexter was experiencing a renewed sense of health and stability in his life.

This was all thanks to a heart transplant

that he received after waiting for an organ for 12 years

while battling ongoing heart complications.

And he fought and fought.

He went through his ups and downs with this whole

process just to be given that organ, you know, like I went through, me and Jena went through

feeling like we were going to lose our dad multiple times. Multiple times. And for to see my

father fight so hard to get where he was, it's like, you know, I thought he was going to die years ago.

I never thought he was going to live to see his grandkids or help raise them or, you know, experience any memories with them.

And to see him actually able to go through that, you know, I give thanks for it.

But it's like multiple times I thought I was going to lose my father.

And even though I went through it multiple times, you know, feeling like I was preparing myself,

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