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The Michael Steele Podcast

No More Nice- We Must Hold Trump and Musk Accountable (with Rick Wilson)

The Michael Steele Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, Government, History, News

4.83.1K Ratings

🗓️ 13 March 2025

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Michael Steele speaks with Republican strategist, Lincoln Project co-founder and NYT best-selling author, Rick Wilson. The pair discuss the havoc Elon Musk and Donald Trump have wreaked on national and global stability. Plus, the importance of outspoken opposition, how power-hungry Marco Rubio is being humiliated by Trump and what needs to happen in order to prepare for the 2026 midterms.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey, move those routers there.

0:04.0

Oh, hey, it's me, your data center.

0:06.0

And as you can hear, I'm making some big changes in here,

0:09.0

because AI is making some bigger ones everywhere.

0:12.0

So I took a little trip to Nokia.

0:14.0

Super fast routers, optical interconnect, fully automated,

0:18.0

the whole data center networking portfolio, and they deliver.

0:22.3

That's them.

0:23.4

Hey, Nokia, right on time.

0:26.0

Get your data center AI ready.

0:28.0

Someday is here with Nokia.

0:30.5

I want that family of a veteran who took his own life at a town hall meeting.

0:36.5

I want that person looking, Congressman Smith,

0:40.0

who's in a soft red district, right in the fucking eye and saying, my brother's dead because of you.

0:46.2

I want that mom whose kids depend on school lunches to look, Marjorie Taylor Green, right in the

0:51.6

fucking eye and say, my kids are going hungry because of you.

0:55.4

I want these people to face the real emotions of human beings for the damage and the harm they are causing.

1:02.5

Because if we don't have that sense of connection to what's really happening to people, then it's easy to think, oh, yeah, oh, it's just Twitter. That's not the real

1:12.8

world right now. And it's getting much worse because of the decisions being made by Donald

1:17.5

Trump and Elon Musk and people should not pull a punch. All right, folks, you got to buckle up for this one because the wild man is in the house.

1:34.5

My buddy Rick Wilson joins me at the mic today.

1:39.3

I'm excited for the conversation.

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