Welcome to In Conversation, the regular podcast of InCompass, go to InCampus-Hipus-Heathen Europe.com

for free access to all our podcast today. This is Paul Adamson, and I'm in conversation with Will Hutton.

Will Hutton is principal of Hartford College, Oxford.

He co-chairs the purpose of a company

and is a columnist of the observer where he was editor,

then editor-in-chief for four years.

There's lots to cover, Will, in the kind of 20 minutes we have in front of us,

but let's start with, if I may,

both the societal and the economic impact of coronavirus, especially in the United Kingdom,

will people have kind of short and selective memories when this crisis is finally over and then go

back to the situation as it was before? Or do you think without being too naive and too simplistic

that there'll be a new regard for the public sector, public workers obviously, and the way the UK has to maybe rethink how it does things.

There's going to be a rethink.

How radical that rethink is up in the air, but a rethink certainly.

I mean, I think one obvious area is that it's become clear that your public health infrastructure,

including social care, is absolutely foundational.

And so that there's going to be, and it has to be resilient.

We've run the National Health Service

with very, very tight margins, operational margins.

And I think all that's going to be rethought.

I think there will be some of the trends

that were there before the crisis are being intensified.

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