No Ma'am Edition
Care and Feeding | Slate's parenting show
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4.4 • 1.1K Ratings
🗓️ 14 January 2021
⏱️ 46 minutes
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Summary
On this week’s episode: Elizabeth, Jamilah, and Dan debate if it’s OK to teach your child to use gendered titles of respect, like sir and ma’am. Then they answer a mother who seems to do the lionshare of housework. Now her husband wants to seize an opportunity to be a stay-at-home father and she’s worried she will no longer be as valuable to the family.
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Recommendations:
Dan recommends going to a different city—sans kids—and taking a walk with a friend.
Jamilah recommends Pleasure Activism: The Politics of Feeling Good by Adrienne Maree Brown.
Elizabeth recommends Niksen: Embracing the Dutch Art of Doing Nothing by Olga Mecking.
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| 0:00.0 | Just to give you a heads up, one of us is bound to say something not suitable for little ears. |
| 0:04.4 | It is, after all, the one hour a day I spend away from my children. |
| 0:10.1 | Welcome to Mom and Daughter Fighting, Slate's parenting podcast for Thursday, January 14th, the No Mam edition. |
| 0:17.0 | I'm Elizabeth Newkamp. I write the homeschool and family blog, Dutch Dutch, Goose, and I'm the mom to three littles, Henry who's eight, Oliver, who's six, and Teddy Who's Four. We live in Navar, Florida. I'm Jimmy LaMew, a writer, contributor to Slate's care and feeding parenting column, and mom to Naima, who is seven. We live in Los Angeles, California. you. I'm Dan Cois. I'm a writer at Slate. I'm the author of the book How to Be a Family. I'm the dad of Lyra, who's 15, and Harper, who's 13, and we live in Arlington, Virginia. This week, we have a question about whether anyone still uses titles of respect, like Sir and Ma'am. Then we have a question from a mom whose husband wants to be a stay-at-home |
| 0:55.6 | dad. She's worried this move will change their family dynamic and she won't be as valuable anymore. |
| 1:01.2 | On our Slate Plus bonus segment, we often talk about raising rebellious kids, but what if your kids |
| 1:06.1 | love rules and you're the rebel? As always, we have triumphs and fails and recommendations. |
| 1:12.0 | Jamila, do you have a triumph or fail for us today? |
| 1:15.1 | This is probably like the seventh or eighth time that I've used my child as a triumph. |
| 1:21.5 | So it's an evergreen one that my kid is awesome and I'm taking a little bit of credit for that. |
| 1:27.2 | Naima, if you so much just suggest that like one day when she gets, you know, as she grows up, |
| 1:32.3 | she's going to like marry a man. She gets very offended by that. And it's not so much that she's |
| 1:38.9 | like, hey, I'm clear that that's not what I want to do. It's how on earth could we know my |
| 1:44.1 | orientation when I'm only seven years |
| 1:45.8 | old? Like that's naeem as energy. She's just like, or girl, we don't know. And like, the door is |
| 1:53.4 | very open her. We've made it incredibly clear to her. Like, if you do know, you are more than welcome |
| 1:58.3 | to share. Like, this is not a space in which, you know, we're not investing in what the, |
| 2:05.2 | what the answer is just supporting you through it, right? |
| 2:09.5 | Like, if you like cishead men, you're going to need a lot of support and a lot. |
| 2:15.1 | But, you know, we're not casting votes here. |
| 2:17.0 | And so I don't think it's that. |
| 2:18.2 | It's just she just is very, like, this is the same kid who really guided me for gendering the Easter bunny, right? Because like Santa Claus, we know his gender because we've been told his gender, but we've never been told who the Easter bunny is. So how dare you assume? And it's just, I don't know, there, there's something in how open I think that |
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