No Kings, No Tyrants (with ACLU's Mike Zamore)

The Oath and The Office

Corey Brettschneider

Government, News, Politics

4.9 • 591 Ratings

🗓️ 18 June 2025

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

Join Corey Brettschneider and John Fugelsang on this timely episode of The Oath and the Office, featuring Mike Zamore, National Policy Director of the ACLU. In the first half, Corey and John dive deep into the weekend's nationwide protests, Trump's escalating impeachable offenses—including his controversial actions involving due process violations and ongoing threats to democratic institutions—and the deployment of the National Guard.

In the second half, Mike Zamore offers an inside look into the ACLU’s important role in organizing "No Kings" rallies, providing compelling firsthand accounts from Philadelphia. Zamore shares vital updates on the pivotal Khalil case and highlights alarming due process abuses, including the unconstitutional deportations to Venezuela seen in the Garcia case and the troubling use of detention facilities in El Salvador.

This episode provides essential insights for anyone concerned with civil liberties, constitutional integrity, and the critical battles shaping America’s future.

Key Topics:

Nationwide protests and the impeachment of Donald Trump
Legal implications of deploying the National Guard against civilians
ACLU's organizing efforts at "No Kings" rallies
Updates on the Khalil case and abuses in deportation processes

Tune in to stay informed and engaged with pressing issues at the intersection of democracy, law, and human rights.

Transcript

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0:00.0	Welcome to yet another exciting edition of the Oath and the Office podcast.
0:14.9	I am John Fuglesing.
0:16.4	So pleased, as always, an honor to join one of the most essential constitutional voices in our country.
0:23.5	Professor Corey Brechtnider, the man with the PhD in politics from Princeton, the law degree
0:27.7	from Stanford, teaching the political science department at Brown and classing up mainstream
0:32.9	media from the New York Times to Politico, CNN to MSNBC.
0:56.1	Professor is, of course, the author of the Oath in the Office, a guide to the Constitution for future presidents, which is not just a civics lesson, but a warning siren for these times. What a pleasure, Corey. It's good to see you again. Thanks, John. It's always such a pleasure to speak with you. And in the midst of these terrible times, of course,
1:00.7	the podcast is about the oath to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution. And we have a president who's doing anything but that. He's assaulting the Constitution. And yet at the same time,
1:05.9	I find it hopeful and calming to talk to you every week. So looking forward to this conversation,
1:10.6	as always. And of course,
1:12.0	this week we're joined again by, I think our first repeat is our first repeat guest, Mike Zaymore,
1:17.7	the National Policy Director for the American Civil Liberties Union. They played a part in organizing
1:23.7	the no, Kings rallies around the country and really all of the major lawsuits
1:28.9	against Trump's abuse of power. So we're lucky to have him as a friend of the podcast and now
1:34.9	a regular repeat guest. So it's really looking forward to this one. Well, Corey, there's so much
1:40.1	we have to get to today. It's been just a little bit eventful. And as you have said many times,
1:45.9	you know, this man is not trying to lead a country. This man is shouting fire in a crowded democracy
1:51.0	while clutching a teaky torch. But it does appear that the cracks are showing. The public ain't buy in it.
1:57.4	His immigration numbers are underwater. His approval rating is in the toilet. The only thing holding up his presidency is the trembling spines of the Republican cowards in the
2:06.6	Congress. Law firms that bent the knee to this guy that we've talked about are now bleeding
2:12.1	clients. The ice raids are backfiring so hard. Even in red states, the ground is shifting.
2:18.6	The MAGA civil war is beginning over Donald Trump and war and Iran.
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