From WNYC Studios, I'm Brian Lerer. This is my daily politics podcast. It's Monday, June 16th.

We'll talk about some of this weekend's dramatic developments in national politics,

the No Kings Day marches, the Trump military parade,

and notably, in case you missed it, President Trump posting that he would scale back workplace

immigration rates at hotels, restaurants, and farms. New Yorker magazine staff writer Susan Glasser

is with us for this as she writes a weekly letter from

Washington column in the magazine and co-host their political scene podcast. She is also the co-author

of the book's Kremlin Rising about Putin's Russia, the man who ran Washington, about James

Baker, the former Secretary of State and Treasury Secretary and the Divider about

Donald Trump's first term. The latest edition of the podcast posted Saturday is called Trump

makes a big show of military force. Susan, always good of you to come on. Welcome back to WNYC.

Thank you so much, Brian. Great to be with you.

Go right to the headline of the podcast. Trump makes a big show of military force. It's kind of a

double meaning headline, isn't it? Absolutely. Absolutely. He is nothing, if not, a performative

strongman. And I think the question after last week is, is he starting to cross

lines that turn him, you know, from performative to something closer to the real thing?

The podcast asks, you kick this around with your co-hosts. What are the consequences of calling

in the troops for protest enforcement in L.A.?

So do you think there have been any other than the firestorm of reaction that it produced?

Well, I mean, look, first of all, legally speaking, it's very much up in the air.

It is an extraordinary moment to have the president of the United States overrule a state's governor and essentially to

take control of California's National Guard, especially because Trump and his lawyers argue that

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