No jumper, coolest podcast in the world. My name is M22. I'm in here wearing some fashion of a slacks that I'm very very proud of.

These things feel incredible anyway. Obviously there's been a lot of changes going on at no jumper. A lot of it happening basically in a real time.

Situations that are, you know, pretty out of control. And I have drawn together a crew of people today. When I say crew, I mean two people.

Court who has moved out to LA and we were already planning on working together. And then bootleg cave who I'm going to suggest is.

Kind of like a substitute teacher in this role here where I don't know like I accept your substitute teacher. I just needed a.

I needed somebody to, you know, kind of bounce stuff back and forth with somebody who's maybe to a certain extent kind of like a independent person in all this.

Yes, fair enough. Let me tell you how bad I feel for this guy because like I convinced him to move out here. And this is the kind of stuff that he showed up to the first day.

Wait, when did you get here? I came straight here from the airport yesterday. And I was here. I want to say three hours before I cracked off. Oh, yeah, because he's been living in New York. And so I was very, very motivated to start podcasting with him at a certain point. Just seemed like it was kind of urgent.

And a lot of stuff has been going on since I'm going to I feel like it's fair to the fans that we kind of break it down in more depth. I don't know how closely you've been following this.

Yeah. So obviously I'm, you know, I've known AD for like 10 years. So I, I've, when I understand you fired lush on the stream because of some I'm not even on discord, but

right. This court shit. Let me explain this. So let's break it down, man. Lush.

We've told them many different times throughout his time here that he's been doing a little too much in terms of communicating with the fans. Now, I mean, obviously communicating with the fans normally is a good thing. Right. You know, if I were to see you

talking to people on Twitter or, you know, anything like that for the most part. This is a good thing. Right. But with Lush, it had kind of taken on a different character where there was like multiple times or maybe just one time. I don't want to say multiple times.

It's kind of like said stuff in the Reddit that multiple of us, me, AD, etc. We had told him, this is not good. This is not a good use of your time. This is not something that you should be doing basically is like, you know, going in the Reddit and like having these sort of like in-depth conversations and stuff. It's like he would like do a podcast, get a reaction live and then immediately be in the Reddit responding to everybody, which to be honest, like, it's just not necessary. You know, it's like these people, they're going to talk about you either way.

Right. You don't have to jump in there and just feed yourself to the sharks. And that really is ultimately how this kind of ended up. And then the discord is like a whole other problem because there's like little insular communities of people who sort of, you know, have been grouping together and just talking about no jump or stuff, talking about the drama, whatever. And for some reason, he's like, he felt the need to like get all up in that and just sort of be in these discord calls with the mods and everything like that. And we told him like, this is a waste of your time.

This is not like, this is going to be bad for you. And I had even had other people who are in these discord calls and stuff basically tell me that these people were essentially not all of them.

But a lot of these people on discord were kind of like treating lush like a low cow. Now I'm not sure if you're familiar with the low call low cow slang, but the basic definition. Maybe I should just pull it up because I know a screenshot.

Not familiar. Yeah. At all. They don't say that you never heard low cow. No.

Oh, okay. For me, yeah. Okay. Yeah. I probably should have specified that it does come from LOL.

But okay, the definition of low cow on urban dictionary is a low cow is a person you get extensive laughs from who doesn't think or who doesn't know that they're being made fun of.

They can often think that they are admired for what they're doing, but secretly secretly they're being laughed at constantly. Now I'm not saying that lush was that to us.

But I think it's pretty clear that from what I know about some of his conversations in the discord and stuff that he was basically getting treated like that by some of these people who to them is kind of like exhilarating that they had like an actual no jumper host who was down to have three hour conversations late at night in the discord with them.

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