All right, hello and welcome back to the Carl Jackson show.

Right now I'm joined by my guest, Jessica Vaughn.

She's the director of policy studies at the Center for Immigration Studies.

And we've got a lot to talk about when it comes to mass deportation,

Trump's second term in office, and how he's going to handle border issues.

So I'm going to go right to my guest and welcome her in. Jessica, welcome to the Carl Jackson show.

Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you, Carl, for having me. Absolutely. Okay. So let me get,

let me get straight to this. I believe there needs to be a mass deportation.

I believe President Trump, that was one of the issues that he ran on, that I believe he won on.

But I have some concerns, Jessica, because I'm afraid that as soon as soon as President Trump gets into office, January 20th, we're going to start hearing

the violins playing all throughout media.

And I'm a little concerned that that's going to impact some Republicans.

Are you concerned about that at all?

Well, there's no question that there will be a narrative that opponents of

immigration enforcement are going to try to weave with the help of media outlets. And it's

starting already. We're already starting to hear stories about people who are concerned about

what's going to happen under the new

administration. But, you know, we have to remember that people understood that this was going

to be the policy of the Trump administration, to a great extent what we know from the post-election polls and exit polls

and even the polls prior to the election was that most Americans want to see immigration laws

enforced. We welcome immigrants who come through our legal system, but what we've experienced

under the Biden administration

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