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This is Wired Politics Lab, a show about how tech is changing politics.

I'm Leah Feiger, the senior politics editor at Wired.

Today on the show, the first debate between Vice President Kamala Harris and former

President Donald Trump was last night.

And Wired Politics Lab decided to record our episode right after it ended.

The debate was, frankly, fairly unhinged. Trump peddled

absolutely absurd conspiracies, and Harris had a number of memeable moments. It was a far cry from

June's debate between Trump and President Joe Biden, but both candidates went all in on appealing

to their bases. Did they succeed? Joining me on the show to talk about all of this are my colleagues

Tim Marchman, Director of Politics, Security, and Science at Wired. Thank you for having me.

And Senior Wired Reporter McKenna Kelly. It's good to be back. How are you guys doing? It is so

late. What did we just watch? I really feel pretty stupefied. It was beyond what I anticipated.

With everything that Trump brought up related to the conspiracies, which I know that we're

going to get into, this whole debate to me felt as if I think it was just like come to

life, the GOP living in this complete alternate reality. Like everything

having to do with those conspiracies, everything having to do with the cats and all this stuff.

I just, I don't know, it just seemed like it's gotten to Trump and it's invaded. This like

brain rot has completely invaded, like the Republican Party in a way that it's like showing up

on the debate stage.

Something that we're going to have to get into tonight is, does that really matter?

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