No concrete plans?
The Briefing Room
BBC
4.8 • 731 Ratings
🗓️ 7 September 2023
⏱️ 29 minutes
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Summary
Some school buildings in England have been forced to close or do urgent repairs because they’re built with a potentially crumbling material, reinforced autoclave aerated concrete, known as RAAC. Lightweight and cheap, RAAC was widely used during the post-war building boom of the 1950s, 60s and 70s. But it has a limited shelf-life, which experts have been aware of for the last 30 years. And poor maintenance of buildings has added to the risks of sudden and catastrophic collapse.
But are schools just the tip of the iceberg? David Aaronovitch asks how widespread is the risk – and what structural solutions are available for schools, hospitals and other buildings that contain RAAC?
David Aaronovitch talks to: Prof Phil Purnell, Professor of Materials and Structures, University of Leeds; Laura McInerney, education journalist, public speaker and co-founder of Teacher Tapp; Adrian Tagg, Associate Professor in Building Surveying at Reading University and a current practising chartered buildings surveyor; Sergio Cavalaro, Professor of Infrastructure Systems at the School of Architecture, Building and Civil Engineering, Loughborough University.
Production: Ben Carter, Kirsteen Knight, Sally Abrahams Production Co-ordinator: Sophie Hill and Debbie Richford Sound: Graham Puddifoot Editor: Richard Vadon
(Correction: In this programme we said that 100 schools in the UK had closed due to issues with RAAC. This is incorrect. Although RAAC has been identified in more than 100 schools, most of them have remained open)
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| 0:00.0 | BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, podcasts. |
| 0:08.1 | Today in Prague in the Czech Republic, a conference is taking place to celebrate 100 years of |
| 0:13.9 | autoclaved, aerated concrete or rack. |
| 0:17.3 | However, there's not much racks celebrating going on in the UK at the moment, with more than 100 schools closing as the new term starts. |
| 0:25.6 | The blame game is well underway as to who should have known what and when. |
| 0:29.6 | The debate has become heated and not a little confusing. |
| 0:33.6 | It's time for some clarity. |
| 0:36.6 | What is RAC? |
| 0:38.8 | Is it actually in itself a big problem, |
| 0:41.3 | or are there other explanations for the fix we find ourselves in? |
| 0:45.2 | And what does this crisis tell us about the way we construct |
| 0:48.1 | and maintain our public buildings? |
| 0:51.4 | Step inside the briefing room and together we'll find out. |
| 0:58.9 | Firstly, what is RAC? And when and why did we start using it? Phil Pernel is Professor of Materials and Structures |
| 1:05.1 | at Leeds University. Phil Pernel, what is Rack Concrete? Well, let's add a bit of context first. |
| 1:11.4 | Let's put ourselves in 1950s Britain. |
| 1:13.5 | You've got a devastated post-war economy. |
| 1:15.7 | You've got a shortage of materials, a shortage of money, a shortage of manpower. |
| 1:19.1 | You've also got a baby boom that means you suddenly need a whole load of new primary schools. |
| 1:23.2 | And you've also got the fallout from the 1944 Butler Education Act, |
| 1:26.5 | which means that you also need |
| 1:27.7 | a load of very big new secondary schools. So you're in a situation where in a context of the white |
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