There comes a moment in life when we look around and realize that the unseen is just as present as the tangible. That what we cannot touch, we can still feel. On today’s episode, we welcome Julie Kramer, a seasoned shamanic practitioner who has spent decades walking between worlds, bridging the gap between the seen and the unseen, helping lost spirits find their way home, and guiding the living toward healing. Her journey into shamanism wasn’t inherited or predetermined—it was a calling that arose from the depths of her soul.From a young age, she knew that reality stretched beyond what the eyes perceive. But it wasn’t until she attended a retreat at Hollyhock in British Columbia that her true path revealed itself. There, she encountered the spirit world in a way that felt both entirely foreign and strangely familiar. As she describes it, “It just felt so natural. It felt so at once ordinary and extraordinary. It felt like I was coming home.” And isn’t that the nature of truth? It startles us into recognition, yet it feels like something we’ve always known.Julie Kramer explains shamanism as the ancient art of recognizing the world as alive with spirit. To her, the practice is not about belief—it’s about direct experience.

Through rhythmic drumming, rattling, and song, she shifts into an altered state, one where the spirit world is no longer veiled. She describes this process as tuning a radio to a different frequency, where voices, visions, and insights pour in—not as abstract notions, but as vivid, undeniable realities.The spirit world, she tells us, is not a distant place. It is here, intertwined with our own, overlapping like two sheets of glass. And while many who pass on make their way to where they are meant to go, some remain behind—stuck, lost, or simply unaware that they are no longer among the living. “They don’t know they’re dead,” she says. “They literally don’t know that they’re dead, and they can become attached to us.” These attachments, she explains, can manifest as emotional struggles, persistent fears, even physical ailments. The work of the shaman is to guide these souls home, to release what lingers so that the living and the dead alike can find peace.Yet, this work is not about superstition or mysticism—it is rooted in evidence. “Shamans were the first medical doctors. They were the first therapists. They were the first priests and priestesses. They were the first mediators,” Julie Kramer reminds us. Long before modern medicine, there was the deep wisdom of those who listened to the land, to the spirits, to the rhythms of life itself. And in many ways, we are now returning to what was lost, relearning the language of the soul.As the conversation unfolds, she touches on something profound: healing is not just about the body—it is about the spirit. Many of the ailments that afflict us are not purely physical; they are rooted in spiritual imbalances, in energies we do not yet understand. When we realign with our own spiritual nature, when we listen to the guidance that is always present, healing begins not just within us, but within the world.

SPIRITUAL TAKEAWAYS

1. The spirit world is always present. We are never truly alone, and guidance is available to us when we learn how to listen.
2. Healing begins with acknowledging the unseen. Many ailments, emotional and physical, have deeper roots in the spiritual realm. Addressing these imbalances can lead to profound transformation.
3. Spiritual work is evidence-based. Shamanism is not about blind faith but direct experience—through deep connection, we can access wisdom that transcends time and space.

In a world that often feels disconnected, where the tangible is valued above all else, Julie Kramer reminds us that there is more to reality than what we see. The spirit world is not a place apart—it is interwoven with our daily lives, waiting for us to acknowledge it, to engage with it, and to embrace the healing it offers. The unseen does not ask for our belief—it only asks that we pay attention.

Please enjoy my conversation with Julie Kramer.

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