NLRB whistleblower claims Musk’s DOGE potentially caused significant security breach
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🗓️ 16 April 2025
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| 0:00.0 | Since President Trump re-entered the Oval Office, billionaire Elon Musk and his Doge team have been sweeping through federal agencies, accessing sensitive data as part of the effort to scale back the size of government. |
| 0:13.3 | We're getting new information about the scope of that access at one independent federal agency. |
| 0:18.6 | That's the National Labor Relations Board, which protects |
| 0:21.6 | workers' rights to organize and investigates unfair labor practices. |
| 0:25.9 | A whistleblower complaint filed by an IT staffer at the NLRB claims that Doge gained access |
| 0:32.1 | to closely guarded data, including case files, and that could have led directly to a, quote, |
| 0:39.0 | significant cybersecurity breach. That whistleblower, Daniel Beruelis, joins me now, along with his lawyer, Andrew Bukai. |
| 0:45.6 | Welcome to you, Bo. Thanks for being here. Thank you. Thank you. So, Daniel, let's just start with you. |
| 0:49.3 | You had been at the agency for about under a year or so. It was about early March when the Doge team arrived at the headquarters. |
| 0:57.2 | When and how did you notice that something wasn't right? Something was going on. |
| 1:01.5 | Sure. I was doing metrics review kind of looking around, trying to do optimization of our own, because we're always trying to save money. |
| 1:09.6 | And we were identifying different things. |
| 1:11.6 | We noticed something that was off. |
| 1:12.6 | Me and a couple different people noticed different points, but it kind of added up to a bigger picture. |
| 1:17.6 | They're called indicators of compromise in the private sector. |
| 1:21.6 | And so when I noticed these indicators, red flags went off in my head, and I said, |
| 1:25.6 | something's up here. |
| 1:26.6 | So I investigated farther at that |
| 1:27.5 | point and what did you find as you investigated further what was happening to the data that you |
| 1:31.3 | saw sure at first I didn't have a good picture so I started to try to rule out possibilities of what |
| 1:36.3 | benign could have caused these large exploitation of data could cause these large spikes of internal |
| 1:42.7 | transfers exfiltration of data to be clear you saw a large amount of data being moved out of the NLRB |
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