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The Athletic I was going to take the piss basically on the pitch and in the stands and someone would reply to say well well you know no because they managed to shore it up well Well, no, that's sort of the point really, because, you know, the white flag was waived. Hello and welcome on to get everybody to the view from the lane, the top of the mostberg podcast from The Athletic. I'm Danny Kelly, and I'm joined by the athletics James Moore and Tim Spears, after Spurs' unbeat and start to the season, came to a pretty sloppy and miserable end in Saturday's North London Derby.

Let's start with this, shall we?

Erling Harland got 10 out of 10 in Le Kipp, the sort of Bible of European Football, the French magazine, after his performance against Manchester United.

Very rare occurrence.

Only 14 players have ever received a perfect score in about 100 years of the magazine's history.

Should we start with some equally prestigious view from the lane North London Derby match ratings?

Yeah, let me ask you, Tim, it was your first Northland and Derby as a reporter.

Did any of the Spurs players deserve more than five?

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