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You're Dead to Me

Njinga of Ndongo and Matamba

You're Dead to Me

BBC

Comedy, History

4.711.8K Ratings

🗓️ 19 August 2022

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Greg Jenner is joined in 17th-century West Africa by Dr Daniel F. Silva and Athena Kugblenu to meet the warrior queen, Njinga of Ndongo and Matamba. One of the most formidable queens in history, Njinga lived a tumultuous life and was able to defy Portuguese colonial rule for decades. For such a successful ruler, not much is known about her. Much of what is said about her in European and Western stories paints a picture of a cold-hearted, bloodthirsty warlord. But how much of that is true?

You’re Dead To Me is a production by The Athletic for BBC Radio 4.

Research by Rosie Rich Written by Emma Nagouse and Greg Jenner with Rosie Rich Produced by Emma Nagouse and Greg Jenner Assistant Producer: Emmie Rose Price-Goodfellow Project Management: Isla Matthews Audio Producer: Max Bower

Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:04.9

Hello and welcome to your Dead To Me, the Radio 4 comedy podcast that takes history

0:10.1

seriously.

0:11.1

My name is Greg Jenner, I'm a public historian, author and broadcaster, I was the chief

0:15.2

nerd on the BBC comedy show Parable Histories.

0:18.0

And today we are taking a trip back to 17th century West Africa to learn all about the

0:22.8

warrior queen who resisted Portuguese colonial rule for decades.

0:26.4

It is the inimitable, in Jinger, of Indongo and Matamba.

0:30.2

And a word of warning, this is not a jolly episode, there will be some content warnings

0:34.8

for violence and self-harm ahead.

0:36.7

We will give you those at the right times.

0:39.2

Right, let me introduce my guests in history corner.

0:42.6

He's an associate professor of Lusso Hispanic Studies and director of the Black Studies

0:46.4

Program at Middlebury College in Vermont, USA.

0:49.9

And he's the author of Anti-Empire, decolonial interventions in Lucifer and Literatures.

0:54.5

It's Dr. Daniel F. Silver.

0:56.1

Welcome Daniel.

0:57.1

Oh, thank you so much, Greg.

0:59.0

It's amazing to be on the program.

1:00.9

I just want to clarify for listeners real quick, I am not Daniel Silver, the spy thriller

1:05.5

novelist.

1:06.5

Oh, no.

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