Psychology in Seattle.

So Umberto, did you watch the new HBO documentary on the murder of Haman Lee that the case of

Adnan saiad? Yes I did this this seems like the case that not only will never go away

it just like it keeps growing and intrigue you know every year or so there's a new

some new set of assets to the deep dive into but but this was definitely very interesting I thought I was done with

that topic and then I saw this thing was coming out and I was really intrigued

I was and I started watching it I I was like, whoa.

Yeah, a $20 patron, even more deserving listener Adam,

asked us to talk about it. So I thought we would do it.

In one sentence, we'll get into it more later. What do you have to say

about the HBO Doc? I think so one of the disadvantages of audio is that you know with with the original with the serial

podcast is that well one of the advantages is you get to picture the universe in your head but when you're

trying to do documentary stuff you may get it wrong.

So there were a lot of visuals that I was like, oh, whoa.

Like people I didn't picture looking that way at all.

Totally.

Scenes that completely changed in my mind, like the layout of certain places.

Because she actually did a great job of being

descriptive right Sarah Kaneg would describe some of the key players like Jay

looks like blah blah right Asia looks like blah blah blah.

Right.

Asia looks like she's a beautiful young woman, blah blah blah

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