You're listening to The Great Simplification with Nate Higgins.

That's me.

On this show, we try to explore and simplify what's happening with energy, the economy, the environment, in our society.

Together with scientists, experts, and leaders, this show is about understanding the bird's eye view of how everything fits together, where we go from here and what we can do about it as a society and as individuals.

This podcast primarily focuses on the scientific synthesis of the global biophysical challenges that we face.

This is mostly a mental, analytical discussion hosted here.

But our biophysical world that we describe as an aggregation of billions of individuals,

and now and then, it's important to bring back the emotional,

physical, and even spiritual in order to balance the conversation and to remember that we

humans are more than just our rational selves. Today, Nina Simons joins me to remind us of just that.

Nina is the co-founder and chief relationship officer at Bioners and leads its every

woman's leadership program.

Nina's career is spanned across the nonprofit, social entrepreneurship, corporate, and philanthropic

sectors. Her book, Nature, Culture and the Sacred, a woman listens for leadership, won a gold

Nautilus Award. How can we re-center ourselves on the human aspects living through such unstable and challenging times

and embody the direction we'd like to see the world move towards.

Please welcome my friend Nina Simons.

Thank you. Hello, Nina. How are you?

I'm well, Nate. Thank you for having me.

Thank you for taking time to do this. We're both in cold and snowy weather in New Mexico and Wisconsin. We are and grateful for every day of it. Yeah. It's been a strange winter with ups and downs and temperatures and such.

Indeed. Yeah. So we have many mutual friends and I was introduced to you quite a while ago.

We've had this scheduled and here's what I'm thinking.

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