Species.

Species.

We look at these animals and they're just so far removed from the life that, you know, that I want them to have that they should have

that, you know, we would hope that wild animals have. And they're just humiliated and degraded.

And they're so utterly powerless.

Hi, I'm Elizabeth Novagrats.

This is Species Unite.

In this conversation, we are taking you inside one of the darkest corners of the animal tourism industry,

places where wild animals are stolen,

broken, and paraded for human amusement.

Joining me are Nina Jackal, founder of Lady Freethinker, an organization exposing and ending animal cruelty worldwide, and Blake Moyne's, Wildlife Conservationist, and founder of Save Our Species Alliance,

who recently went undercover in Thailand to document the hidden realities behind elephant rides,

tiger selfies, and orangutan shows.

What they found is heartbreaking and happening far more often than most of us realize. Together, they're shining

a light on the cruelty behind cute tourist attractions and building a movement to change what

people see and share online.

Thank you. Welcome, Blake and Nina. It's so good to see you both. Before we get into it, why don't each of you give some background on who you are and then we'll get into how you've got this whole thing going.

Where I came from, I mean, it's been a long journey. You know, I've been on the reality TV circuits for some time. And once I came off that show, I've always had a, you know, a passion

for wildlife and conservation, but saw

an opportunity off of very random just posts for, for rhino conservation that there was a lack of

voice and how much you could do with a voice. And so since then, five years ago, it's kind of transitioned,

and we've tried to make more of it because there's a lot of people that want to be

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