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secure. Welcome to this very special edition of the Safety Third podcast. I'm your host, William

Osmond, here with co-host Alan Pan.

Hey, what are we, what are we doing? I just started it. They're supposed to come out, but I figured we just started it and they would come out whenever.

Are we actually recording right now? Yeah, it's going.

I, what am I, dude? I don't know how to describe how hard it is to work with other people because I can only try so hard to get everyone else to do things.

Come on in.

So Nigel's here, but like where's Kevin?

I don't know.

It doesn't matter though because we already started recording.

We can't hear you.

We can't hear you.

I have a defense for this.

What in the name of God have you brought in here?

It's not that it's hard. It's like we're just

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