Yeah, you have to look at the Bolshevik revolution within the context of the global workers movement.

And you have to understand that these people, Stalin included, were all very serious about this project of like of building something.

And of course in 1991 that dream sort of fades but by that point in time people had already a lot of people in the world that already lost a lot of faith anyways

You know even by like McC Bucharest's trial, right?

And what is it, 1938, Bucharin's execution

is one of the things that drives a lot of former communists into anti-communists because the charges were so

absurd and he had been such this like luminary figure within the movement

and all of a sudden he's admitting to like having tried to kill Lenin in 1918.

I think that was the one thing that he like refused to to agree with.

He was charged with it.

Yeah, he was charged with it.

Yeah, but he admitted to like a bunch of other stuff because like they were straight up going to kill his family.

Yeah. But that was the one thing. It was like I did not, I did not, it's inspired to kill Lenin. But he did I think admit to like, well it was sort of a delicate

balance where, another delicate balance where he's trying to make the broader point about Stalin and all these problems with Stalin and he

on trial says he was complicit in that. So he's kind of honest in a way because yeah he did end up like you said it's he's a left communist and then he's on the right opposition.

He's a flexible thinker arguably flexible to a fault.

I don't know.

But I'm curious, I wanted to, before we go further,

because this is something that from this period

gets thrown around a lot and I feel like mischaracterized misunderstood.

Left communism.

What is like a, you think of succinct definition for what that is?

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