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And now it's Joe PAGS.

I great to have you thanks. I appreciate you stopping by. There's a lot going on. There's a lot to get to. We've got

Riley Gaines on the program at the bottom of the hour. Bottom means 30. After the hour, she is the

championship swimmer from the NCAA. She is also the woman who had to share a win with a guy six foot four Leah Thomas and also had to change along with her all of her teammates in a locker room with this guy who was just equipped as a man

Naked right there in front of him just standing there and

Decided I'm not just going to take it.

She was going to go to dental school

and decided that she would go out and talk about

what's going on with women and girls sports.

And since then, I wondered with her, and I'm going to ask you this question at the bottom of the

hour, so about 30 minutes from now, about 25 minutes from now actually.

I ask you this question, have things gotten better?

And I think you'll like her answer. But what's interesting to me is that we're

hearing more stories about it so it goes back to the question are we hearing more

stories about trans infiltrating women's and girls sports

because it's happening more or are we hearing more about it

because people are reporting it more.

By the way, that's Carrie Locky,

we got a pull along for the ride, Sam Bam,

we get it done with the playing man.

So, Carol, what do you think?

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