Nikki Haley Could Surprise Us

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🗓️ 11 January 2024

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

Donald Trump has an “overwhelming lead” in the Iowa caucus but he is not the sure winner. There is still a narrow window to change the course of the election, although that window is only open for about a month more. I talk to political reporters Elaine Godfrey—who is headed to Iowa—and Mark Leibovich about the genuine possibility of something surprising happening in Iowa and in the Republican primaries in the month ahead. We discuss the path, “more like a deer trail,” says Godfrey, for Nikki Haley to win the nomination. And we discuss what the near future looks like if she does, or doesn’t. Want to share unlimited access to The Atlantic with your loved ones? Give a gift today at theatlantic.com/podgift. For a limited time, select new subscriptions will come with the bold Atlantic tote bag as a free holiday bonus. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	The Iowa caucuses are in Monday, just a few days away.
0:07.0	Republicans in the state will make their choice for the nominee.
0:13.5	And the rest of us will be a little closer to knowing what our next four years are going to be like.
0:19.5	The realistic choices right now are Donald Trump, long gap, Nicky Haley, and Ron
0:26.8	Santos. Donald Trump is way ahead, but there is still a chance for surprises.
0:34.0	Or is that just a fiction I'm telling myself?
0:37.0	I'm Hannah Rosen, this is Radio Atlantic.
0:40.0	There is one final moment for things to go differently.
0:44.0	That moment is now in the next month or so.
0:47.0	A narrow path for a different Republican candidate,
0:50.0	probably Nicki Haley, to win the nomination, and for the Republican Party to get out from under Trump.
0:56.0	Trust me.
0:58.0	Or trust the Atlantic political writers who are tracking the elections more closely.
1:02.0	Mark Leibovich, who's been reporting elections more closely.
1:03.0	Mark Leibovich, who's been reporting on Mickey Haley.
1:05.0	Hi Mark.
1:06.0	Hi, Hannah.
1:07.0	And Elaine Godfrey, who is on her way to Iowa this week.
1:12.0	Hi, Anna.
1:13.0	Okay, Elaine, you're going to Iowa.
1:16.0	What drama are you excited to track there?
1:20.0	I am going to Iowa.
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