Well also it's like driving a car right I mean the very first time you ever drive a car you're like oh my gosh

hands at ten and two what's every what's happening and then you know ten twenty years later you're changing the channel

you're turning up the volume you're

yelling at the kids in the backseat you're eating a sandwich you can do all those

things that while going 70 miles an hour

I'm Ryan Gresham and this

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Welcome into Gun Talk Nation. Today on Gun Talk Nation, we're going to talk about thermal and

night vision and all that stuff

Steve Leminoff welcome in man thanks Ryan you are a veteran when it comes to this world of

high-tech optics the the thermal night vision.

I mean, how many years have you been in that universe?

Almost two decades.

It's funny.

Thinking about it, you know, I started in 2006, so almost two decades.

And obviously it's not like that's when it was invented.

It's been around a lot longer than that, but there's been a lot of changes since then. I've seen the

the segment you know there's optics right the whole big world of optics the

optics red dots a whole conglomeration the whole

conglomerates of things.

Night vision and thermal is such a small portion

of that vertical, but in recent years has made incredible strides and

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