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5-4

NIFLA v. Becerra

5-4

Prologue Projects

News Commentary, News, Government

4.63.2K Ratings

🗓️ 18 February 2025

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

Crisis pregnancy centers can provide misinformation about healthcare and perform medical procedures without requiring a licensed doctor. Yes, all of that is legal, thanks to the Supreme Court.  


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5-4 is presented by Prologue Projects. This episode was produced by Dustin DeSoto. Leon Neyfakh provides editorial support. Our researcher is Jonathan DeBruin, and our website was designed by Peter Murphy. Our artwork is by Teddy Blanks at Chips NY, and our theme song is by Spatial Relations.


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0:00.0

We'll hear argument this morning in case number 16, 1140, the National Institute of Family and Life Advocates versus Becerra.

0:12.2

Hey, everyone. This is Leon from Prologue Projects. On this episode of 5 to 4, the hosts are talking about Nifla v. Bacera, a case from 2018 that centers around

0:23.8

reproductive rights and free speech. Nifla, if you're not familiar with the Crisis Pregnancy

0:28.7

Center seen, is the National Institute of Family and Life Advocates, a nonprofit that claimed

0:34.9

the California law violated free speech protections by requiring clinics

0:39.0

offering pregnancy-related care to provide people with certain information about legal abortion.

0:44.6

The law also required that clinics disclose if they are licensed medical providers, which most

0:49.8

of these crisis pregnancy centers were not.

0:52.6

There are thousands of fake health clinics around our country, 370 in the state of California,

1:00.2

that are unfortunately deceiving women.

1:02.1

The Supreme Court sided with the pro-life clinics and struck down the California law.

1:07.1

This is 5 to 4, a podcast about how much the Supreme Court sucks.

1:19.5

Welcome to 5 to 4, where we dissect and analyze the Supreme Court cases that have poked holes in our civil rights like Elon Musk,

1:29.5

poking holes in his brain with enphetamines.

1:31.0

I'm Peter.

1:32.1

I'm here with Rianan.

1:33.5

Hey, it's me.

1:35.9

Elon Musk is really tweaking, isn't he?

1:37.7

Losing it every single day. It's cool to watch someone have a perpetual meltdown for actual years, both in person and online, and also know that they are the

1:46.7

most powerful person in the world. That's cool. That rules. Yeah. To have been rewarded for those years of

1:52.9

being primetime bitch number one publicly, you know? Yeah. And to now just be standing in the Oval

2:00.6

Office next to the president's desk being like yeah

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