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The Interview

Nicu Popescu: How can Moldova protect itself?

The Interview

BBC

News, Government, Politics

4.3537 Ratings

🗓️ 14 June 2022

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

Stephen Sackur speaks to Nicu Popescu, Moldova’s foreign minister and deputy Prime Minister. Poor, beset with corruption and strategically vulnerable, Moldova has reasons to fear that Russia’s invasion of neighbouring Ukraine could end on its soil. How does Moldova best protect itself?

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to Hard Talk on the BBC World Service with me, Stephen Saka.

0:04.7

My guest today had been in his current job, foreign minister of Moldova, for just six months,

0:10.3

when the Russian invasion of Ukraine pitched his small country into a full-blown regional security crisis.

0:18.3

Niku Popescu is a young policy advisor turned senior minister and deputy prime

0:24.3

minister in a pro-Western Moldovan government which is officially neutral, but which sees much to

0:31.4

fear in Vladimir Putin's brand of Russian expansionism. In the early weeks of the war, there was a real fear that a Russian

0:39.0

military sweep through Ukraine could see Moscow push its offensive into Moldova, formerly incorporating

0:46.4

the breakaway territory of Transnistria into Putin's vision of a greater Russia. Now, that hasn't

0:53.9

happened, and for now the Russian military

0:55.7

focus remains in the Donbass, but Moldova's fragility has been thoroughly exposed. On top of

1:02.8

endemic poverty and corruption, the country is now struggling to cope with 100,000 Ukrainian

1:09.1

refugees, the highest per capita inflow in all of Europe.

1:14.6

The country remains utterly dependent on Russian energy supplies, and that means the current

1:19.6

government's desire to apply for EU membership and work with NATO on improving Moldova's

1:26.1

threadbare military could come at a high cost. In a

1:30.1

neighborhood suddenly fraught with danger, how does Moldova best protect itself? Well, Deputy PM and

1:37.8

Foreign Minister Niku Popescu joins me now from Chisinau. Welcome to Hard Talk. It's good talking to you, Stephen.

1:45.3

It's a pleasure to have you on the show.

1:47.6

Now, Mr Deputy Prime Minister, you've had more than 100 days of observing Vladimir Putin's invasion strategy in Ukraine.

1:56.2

Right now, do you fear that Putin represents a threat to Moldova too?

2:03.0

I think this war is making every single person living on the European continent

2:08.7

and not only feel the insecurity generated by this war,

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