Nicolle Wallace, Part 2

Impolitic with John Heilemann

Audacy | Puck

News, Politics

4.8 • 4.5K Ratings

🗓️ 6 April 2022

⏱️ 75 minutes

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In this special two-part episode, Heilemann talks with his pal Nicolle Wallace, host of Deadline: White House on MSNBC, about the battle between democracy and autocracy at home and abroad. In Part One, Heilemann and Wallace focus on recent developments surrounding the House 1/6 committee: the seven-plus hour gap in Donald Trump’s White House phone logs from the day of the attack on the Capitol; Ginni Thomas’s text messages with Trump’s chief of staff advocating the overturning of the 2020 election, and the subsequent failure of her husband, Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, to recuse himself from cases involving the insurrection; the ruling of a federal judge endorsing the theory that Trump is likely guilty of committing federal crimes related to 1/6; the pressure on the Department of Justice to indict him; and how the same struggle against authoritarianism is playing out in both Ukraine and the U.S. In Part Two, Heilemann and Wallace focus on the rot afflicting the GOP, Wallace's former party: how Republicans went from embracing her former boss, George W. Bush, to worshipping Trump; the role of Fox News and Tucker Carlson in particular in turning the right into a movement fueled by conspiracy theories and anti-democratic impulses (with Wallace averring that Trump, Carlson, and Vladimir Putin comprise a new “axis of evil"); and how the radicalization of the GOP establishment is, says Wallace, “the most underreported story in America.” Plus: Wallace reacts to the return of Sarah Palin — her bête noire as a staffer for John McCain in the 2008 presidential campaign, as famously recounted in Heilemann's book and film, Game Change — as a candidate for Congress in Alaska. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:30.1	There are some things you should always check, like the hygiene rating on your local takeaway,
0:36.2	the setting on your razor, and whether the party actually
0:39.3	is fancy dress. The other thing you should check is your Experian credit report, especially if you're
0:45.7	looking to borrow money. It lets you understand what lenders see, so you can increase your chances
0:50.9	of getting the best deals. It's dead easy to check it and completely free.
0:56.7	See it in seconds. Download the Experian app today.
1:22.6	Hey everyone, John Heilman here and welcome to part two of our epic two-part episode of Hell and High Water with my dear friend, the one and only, Nicole Wallace.
1:32.2	If you haven't listened to part one already, if you just stumbled onto this podcast and you don't realize that there was even a part one, you really got to hit the pause button right now. Do not pass go.
1:37.7	Do not collect $200. Just go back and listen to part one of the podcast. So you can hear Nicole talk powerfully, movingly, with great force and urgency about the January 6th committee in the House and what's at stake
1:45.8	for the country in that, Liz Cheney's moral clarity, Donald Trump's increasingly irrefutable
1:50.9	criminality, Ginny Thomas's brain rot, Clarence Thomas' corruption, and Ukrainian President
1:55.4	Zelensky's status in Nicole's words as a, quote, leader for the ages.
2:00.0	When we're talking about Zelensky's address to Congress, which he did by Zoom a few weeks ago,
2:05.0	Nicole mentioned the effectiveness of his invocation of some seminal moments in American history,
2:09.9	Pearl Harbor, and she mentioned 9-11, which, of course, was a powerful moment in that speech.
2:14.6	And it got me thinking about that fateful day and the fact that Nicole was working in the White House on that day for George W. Bush. And so that is where we
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