Nicola Sturgeon's great independence gamble
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The Times
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🗓️ 1 December 2022
⏱️ 29 minutes
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Summary
After a stinging rebuke from the Supreme Court of the United Kingdom - which ruled that the devolved Scottish parliament cannot authorise an independence referendum - SNP leader Nicola Sturgeon has doubled down saying democracy itself is now at stake, and vowing to turn the next general election into a 'de facto' referendum. Could that work? And what does that even mean?
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| 1:08.4 | The Supreme Court of the United Kingdom has a ring to it. |
| 1:12.6 | It only makes the biggest judgments, like last weeks. |
| 1:18.9 | This is probably the biggest political constitutional moment here in Scotland |
| 1:25.2 | in very many years. |
| 1:33.3 | In a rebuff to the ruling Scottish National Party, |
| 1:36.3 | the court ruled that the Scottish Parliament does not have the authority |
| 1:40.5 | to hold another independence referendum. |
| 1:43.5 | This is a big blow to First Minister Nicholas Sturgeon's case |
| 1:48.5 | for holding a second vote on the 19th of October next year. |
| 1:52.5 | That was the plan of attack. |
| 1:55.6 | Actually, one of them that they are secretly perhaps |
| 1:58.2 | rather relieved that they don't have to have a referendum next October |
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