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Hello, my guest today is an expert in the behaviour of birds,

which has led her to some unexpected findings.

Nicky Clayton is a professor of comparative cognition at the University of Cambridge

and says intelligence in birds like crows and jays develop quite separately hundreds of millions of years ago from that of apes and humans.

Her elegant experiments are inspired by watching birds in the wild

and trying to get inside their mindset.

Nicky's work raises many questions about the understanding of animal behavior,

including whether as humans we can ever interpret the actions of other species accurately.

But she says her work with birds and other animals

can help illuminate young children's activities and how their brains develop.

This insight into children's brains is now part of a collaboration

with the Rombert Dance Company. Nicky has a passion for dancing and she's

currently their scientist in residence. Their latest work, Seven for a Secret Never to be

told, is inspired by how children's play nourishes their creativity and

intelligence. But it all started with the birds.

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