I remember when I got cast as the bad guy

and miscongeniality too, armed and fabulous,

I got a small but nice chunk of change,

and I thought, oh, instead of spending this on an indiscretion or an indulgence, I'm going to buy a really nice band saw.

I'm Christine Zier-Cleset. I'm Kyra Blackwell. I'm Rosie Garron, and you're listening to The Wirecutter Show. Hi guys.

One thing I've learned about the wirecutter team is beyond their passion for talking about gear that hopefully will help folks live better, you know, great chef's knife,

a sewing machine, maybe the right pen for journaling, is an inner light, an excitement when

that sentiment is shared by someone else in the world, particularly someone famous.

In this case, I'm referencing tools specifically.

Absolutely. It's kind of funny. It's few and far between that there's actually someone famous

who really geeks out to the level that people at Wirecutter will geek out on different products.

But about six years ago, Nick Offerman, who is famous actor,

if you haven't watched Parks and Recreation, go back and familiarize yourself with Ron Swanson.

He tweeted about this Estwing Hammer that he really loves. And he pointed to our hammer review,

which was written by Doug Mahoney, who has been on the show before. And since then, tons of people at

Wirecutter have been like, it would be so great to have him on the site. It would be so great to get him involved with the review. Can we get him to test hammers for us? You know, it's been on our bucket list to be able to talk to him. And the thing is, Ron Swanson, the character, is really big on woodworking, but I didn't even know that Nick Offman, the man, he's actually been a professional

woodworker for years. Ron Swanson, the character is really big on woodworking, but I didn't even know that

Nick Offerman, the man, he's actually been a professional woodworker for decades. He started

Offerman Woodshop, his own shop, over 20 years ago, before he even made it big in Hollywood.

He also wrote a bunch of books, and he's got a new one out called Little Woodchucks,

which is so cute. It's a woodworking

guide for kids, but really it's more of a love letter to anyone who wants to slow down,

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