Nick Offerman (‘Civil War’) Brings a Message of Hope

Talk Easy with Sam Fragoso

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Society & Culture, Film Interviews, Tv & Film

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🗓️ 28 April 2024

⏱️ 81 minutes

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Summary

Today, actor and author Nick Offerman returns to the show! We call him up to unpack his latest role as a fictional president in Alex Garland’s Civil War (2:30), the function of the film’s politics (9:30), and a powerful poem by Wendell Berry (26:15).

Then, we turn to Offerman’s personal journey, beginning with his recent book Where the Deer and the Antelope Play (32:48), which was inspired by growing up in rural Minooka, Illinois (33:30) and his experiences with the late Sam Shepard at Steppenwolf Theatre (35:55).

Shortly after working with Shepard, Offerman began to find his footing—on and off the stage—as a performer, carpenter, and fight choreographer (39:48). He reflects on his galvanizing role in the film Going All the Way (42:37), the guiding principles of George Saunders (45:30), lessons from his sensei Shōzō Satō (52:10), the start of his nearly two-decade marriage with actress Megan Mullally (54:05), the phone call that changed his life (1:00:00), and the complicated legacy of Ron Swanson from Parks and Recreation (1:06:36).

Then, before we go, we return to the timely (and urgent) message of his latest book (1:11:30), a piece by Jeff Tweedy (1:14:10), and words by Wendell Berry (1:16:45).

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0:00.0	It all started with two federal agents who heard a rumor.
0:05.0	She mentions, well, there is this alleged murder to have taken place.
0:11.0	There is just one problem. They had no clue who the victim was. We have to do our
0:18.3	job and we have to find out who did they kill it had been 15 years since this alleged murder was
0:30.1	it still possible to unearth the truth?
0:34.8	I used to watch the unsolved mystery shows
0:39.9	and I often thought about calling because I was like,
0:44.0	this is not right.
0:45.7	How can the person get killed and no one knows anything?
0:50.9	I'm Jake Halpern, and this is Deep Cover The Nameless Man.
0:55.0	Listen wherever you get your podcasts and if you want to hear the entire season right now,
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1:07.0	F.M. slash Plus. Pushkin. This is talk easy. I'm San Frigoso. Welcome to the show.
1:37.0	This is talk easy. I'm San Frigoso.
1:41.0	Welcome to the show. Nick Offerman. How you do it? I'm very well. Thank you. I'm glad to be in touch with you.
2:09.4	I'm a big fan of the podcast and I'm glad to have reason to have your glance fall upon me.
2:18.8	So the reason we are talking is because you're in this new movie called Civil War. It's directed by
2:26.3	Alex Garland. He's made films like Exmachina, Annihilation. There was a TV show you made with them called Devs, you texted me out of the blue
2:36.7	and started the message Offerman here, which is one of my favorite texts to receive. It just says offerman here and then I'm like
2:46.4	okay what's what's next and what was next in this case was you asking me have you
2:52.2	seen this movie?
2:54.0	Why did you reach out and why should people see this movie?
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