This is Radio Geopolitics and Empire.

Joining us for the very first time is Nick Hudson.

He's chairman of Panda.

He's an actuary with a broad international experience in finance, currently a private equity investor.

He's a man of wide-ranging interests and avidate reader of canonical literature, classical music,

aficionado and an enthusiastic amateur or nithologist. He's been

invited to speak on various topics, including epistemology, corporate governance, investment

management, and more recently the pandemic and beyond. Welcome to the podcast, Nick.

No, thanks very much. I hate those formal introductions, but I'll forgive you. Yeah, yeah. Well,

we'll give you a second chance at an informal introduction. I was, you know, recently watching

your chat with Mike Driver and Neil Oliver. And I've been following your commentary for years now.

You came on my radar during COVID-1984, or some people call it COVID-9-11.

So you began to sort of speak out against the totalitarianism.

And for anyone who's listening, who's not aware of you,

whatever you'd like to add about yourself and how you sort of fell into

that activism.

Yeah, well, I think the sort of important thing to understand is that in February 2020, I was just

a private equity guy, mining my own business, getting about my trade, preparing for an

investor conference, and I

started scratching at this COVID phenomenon because I thought it might be something that

people wanted to hear what we thought about and so on. And very quickly, I mean, I'm talking

within days. I realize that there was something terribly wrong because there was this massive

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