And we are live and we're doing something we we really haven't ever done before we're

doing an interview and we have Nick Ferguson in the house actually here in TSP Studios Nick welcome

to the show day man thanks for having me so guys and gals if you want to ask us any questions as

always I star them for follow up at the end sometimes we pick one up along the way but the best

practice for you guys is if it's something you want us to comment on all caps for at least the first

couple words that kind of brings it to my attention we hit the little star in the comment chain

and we'll try to come back to you remember we can see your comments if you're on Facebook

Twitch or YouTube here in the back office everybody else you guys can chat amongst yourselves but we

can't see it screened in stream yard does not have that integration now Nick and I we decided

we're gonna do this today and we were sitting around last night having a couple drinks and talking

about what we're gonna talk about Nick Ferguson for those that have not met him before is a

permaculture consultant one of the best I've met personal friend but I kind of brought up to him

that I bet you that the motivation and the mood of your clients has shifted over the years and

I I flip Nick quite a bit of referral because when somebody says jack you can sold I'm like no

but I know somebody who does so I see the the referrals come through sometimes for Nick and

I've noticed it just in like initial email about can you help me out so I'm thinking like back

in 2015 Nick when somebody brought you out it was like more of the purple form of permaculture even

if they were not a purple person right it was like I want it to be beautiful and I want to live

with nature and I want to sit under the Bodhi tree and contemplate my name there's nothing wrong

with that I'm just kind of setting the mood that was the tone five years ago but the tone today

with supply chain shortages food shortages the president talking about coming food shortages and

then doing everything wrong has the tone and the mood and the urgency changed in your client base

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