We are clearly on the cusp of a new paradigm, a paradigm shift.

We live in this world that is simulation-like, I mean, a universe that is simulation-like,

but is actually at its source, at its fundament, as far as we can go, is based on information.

What it craves is data and information.

The universe doesn't care whether the information that presents itself, the data that comes back to it,

is good or evil. Hi everyone and welcome back to that UFO podcast. As always, my name is Andy and a big welcome

back to today's guest, Nick Cook. Nick, welcome. Thanks very much for having me on the show, Andy.

Good to have you back. It's been a little well since you were last on. And when we spoke a couple of years ago now, we spoke about your

book, which I mentioned in the introduction, The Hunt for Zero Point, always brought up by listeners

as a kind of seminal book for many in the topic. And this time we've got you here to talk about

among many things, the launch

of the Exo Institute. And I was fortunate to attend an event now back on April 7th, which seems like

a lifetime ago, but as of recording, was about two weeks in London. And a little shout out to

our mutual friend, Holly, for helping arrange me getting an invite to that. It was at Ladbrook Hall. It was

standing room only. And I mean, when I say standing room only, people were sat on the stairs

going between the first and second floor. It was very little room to move. And that's probably

a testament to what was being put together. But what I'd love to do is get you to explain about

the new venture, about the

Exot Institute. And take us back to what was the inception of the idea? Yeah, that's a really

good question. And again, you know, we were talking off camera. Thanks for coming. I mean,

you came a long way to the launch of that. And it wasn't a conference either.

It was a launch. So it was literally, it was a two-hour evening. So it was a long way to come

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