Welcome to the Bullwork Podcast, I'm Charlie Sykes.

We're back with another episode from our best of 2022 list, and today's show is with

Nick Confessori of The New York Times, who I interviewed back in May after he wrote a

three-part series on Tucker Carlson.

As part of his reporting on what may be the most racist show in the history of television,

Confessori watched 1150 episodes of Tucker Carlson tonight, and I told Nick I could not

have subjected myself to watching that many hours of Tucker.

Thanks for doing that, Nick.

Thanks for taking one for the team here.

It's a service to readers, a service to our audience, to work with my colleagues, to

listen to four plus years of Tucker Carlson, and really try to understand what the show

is about.

Okay, so for our listeners, Nick is a political and investigative reporter for The New York

Times, staff writer at The New York Times Magazine, and a political analyst for MSNBC.

He was part of the team that won the 2009 Pulitzer Prize for its cover to the downfall of

New York Governor, Elliot Spitzer, and he wrote, if you have not read it, you really ought

to, that three-part series on Tucker Carlson.

It is show for The Times, which is probably the deepest dive into the mind and the culture

of Tucker Rism that's been written.

But let's start with kind of the basic, Nick.

Tucker Carlson's been around for a while.

It's not like he has not been covered.

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