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This is a global player original podcast. It's not often that we get the chance to speak to somebody

right at the heart of the world's biggest social media company. Nick Clegg was the president of

global affairs at Meta, that's formerly Facebook.

He was also our deputy PM in the coalition years alongside David Cameron.

He left his job there in January, just before Trump returned to office.

Did I make sure while I was there, not least, perhaps notoriously in the case of suspending Trump, that if the community standards were broken, sanctions and penalties were applied? Yes, I did.

Do you think it cost you your job?

What? The defendant, I suspended Trump? No, I left. I didn't. Are you sure? Am I sure I left?

I mean, are you sure you didn't get fired? That's a really weird question. Who else is going to know whether I got fired or not me? I left. I chose to leave. I chose to leave at a time of my own choosing. He's the author of a new book, How to Save the Internet, and he's given his first broadcast interview to us, the news agents. We discussed the power of Facebook, good and bad,

what it was like to work in the heart of the beast alongside Mark Zuckerberg, and how he finds

UK politics in 2025. Welcome to the Newsagents.

The Newsagents.

Sir Nick Clegg worked at Facebook, now Meta, from 2018 until earlier this year.

It's a company with three and a half billion active users a month through Facebook, Instagram and WhatsApp.

It reaches more than any other media platform in the world.

His new book asks questions about what it does with all this power.

He sets out a plan for global cooperation, offers thoughts on the AI future.

He also has lessons for the current UK government.

And I ask him how he looks back on his apology.

I'm sorry. over tuition fees.

Nick Clegg, I've just finished reading your book, How to Save the Internet.

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