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Intelligence Squared

Nick Clegg on Meta, AI and the Battle for Big Tech (Part One)

Intelligence Squared

Intelligence Squared

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4.21.1K Ratings

🗓️ 10 September 2025

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Nick Clegg has had a seat at the heart of power for nearly two decades. As leader of the Liberal Democrats he served as deputy Prime Minister from 2010 to 2015 in the coalition government with David Cameron. After losing his parliamentary seat in 2017 he became Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg’s right-hand man as President of Global Affairs at Meta. Throughout his time in politics and the private sector Clegg has been a key player in the battle between governments and Big Tech. In September 2025 he came to Intelligence Squared to argue why he believes that the backlash against Big Tech and the charges against it in recent years are overblown – including the accusation that social media algorithms polarise, manipulate and harm adults and children. Clegg drew from his new book How to Save the Internet to offer an alternative future for the internet that seeks to regulate Big Tech without demonising or overstating the problems these giant companies are accused of causing. Clegg was in conversation with journalist, author and former BBC News Editorial Director Kamal Ahmed. --- This is the first instalment of a two-part episode. If you'd like to become a Member and get access to all our full ad free conversations, plus all of our Members-only content, just visit intelligencesquared.com/membership to find out more. For £4.99 per month you'll also receive: - Full-length and ad-free Intelligence Squared episodes, wherever you get your podcasts - Bonus Intelligence Squared podcasts, curated feeds and members exclusive series - 15% discount on livestreams and in-person tickets for all Intelligence Squared events  ...  Or Subscribe on Apple for £4.99: - Full-length and ad-free Intelligence Squared podcasts - Bonus Intelligence Squared podcasts, curated feeds and members exclusive series … Already a subscriber? Thank you for supporting our mission to foster honest debate and compelling conversations! Visit intelligencesquared.com to explore all your benefits including ad-free podcasts, exclusive bonus content and early access. … Subscribe to our newsletter here to hear about our latest events, discounts and much more. https://www.intelligencesquared.com/newsletter-signup/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Welcome to Intelligence Squared, where great minds meet.

1:01.1

I'm producer Mia Sorrenti.

1:03.7

Nick Clegg has had a seat at the heart of power for nearly two decades.

1:08.1

As leader of the Liberal Democrats, he served as deputy prime minister from 2010 to

1:12.8

2015 in the coalition government with David Cameron. After losing his parliamentary seat in 2017,

1:19.0

he became Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg's right-hand man as president of global affairs at Meta.

1:25.1

Recently, Clegg spoke to journalist and broadcaster Kamal Ahmed on the Intelligence

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